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there's a difference between talking in more moderate ways and pledging to govern as a moderate. the mitt we saw last week in that debate was certainly working double time to etch-a-sketch away some of his positions. take a look. >> i will not reduce the share paid by hi-income individuals. well, the current rates less 20% so the top rate, for instance, would go from 35% to 28%. regulation is essentially. this president has enacted job-killing eggs lations. i will eliminate them. what we did in massachusetts is a model for the nation. >> did you say on camera and other places that at times you thought it would be a model for the nation. >> you're wrong, brad. >> no, no, there's tape -- >> no, the tape out there -- continue to read the tape and the tape goes on to say for each state to be able to look at it. >> okay. but don't be fooled by romney's new language, of course. if the president wants to hold onto his job, he better make the american people understand that the so-called moderate mitt is just a mirage for the occasion. does he have it in him to do it? ron reg sentence an
there's a difference between talking in more moderate ways and pledging to govern as a moderate. the mitt we saw last week in that debate was certainly working double time to etch-a-sketch away some of his positions. take a look. >> i will not reduce the share paid by hi-income individuals. well, the current rates less 20% so the top rate, for instance, would go from 35% to 28%. regulation is essentially. this president has enacted job-killing eggs lations. i will eliminate them. what we...
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then reality-based government is over in the can you understand again and we're back to bush cheney but more extreme. it's one debate, but it was one debate with 70 million more people, more eyes on that debate than any speech that we could carry on all of cable neuews combined, then any radio program or twitter account could get. >> it is one debate that was heavily tuned in. perhaps the second presidential debate maybe double. nevertheless it's not just one debate. >> it's one debate that is very visible but a different mitt romney shows up. obama just let that happen. mitt romney showed up and he seemed like an energetic guy to fix things. obama showed up and looked tired and listless and he didn't challenge mitt romney on his extreme positions or on the extreme positions of the republican party including his running mate. >> i always lover yo your insig. we're past the debate but still at that same conversation even with democrats still talking about the debate mystery that happened. >> it was a vacuum. there's nothing else to talk about until the next debate. >> we can talk about t
then reality-based government is over in the can you understand again and we're back to bush cheney but more extreme. it's one debate, but it was one debate with 70 million more people, more eyes on that debate than any speech that we could carry on all of cable neuews combined, then any radio program or twitter account could get. >> it is one debate that was heavily tuned in. perhaps the second presidential debate maybe double. nevertheless it's not just one debate. >> it's one...
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to have an honest, substantive conversation about medicare, about social security, about the role of government, and i think it's going to be, for lack of a better term, chris and chris, i think this is going to be a gentlemen's debate more than a hurricane-type debate. >> okay. >> i hope that's the case, at least. >> well, in 2008, in the vice presidential debate, joe biden took care like he was patronizing or bullying sarah palin, which to be clear is a different dynamic when you're debating a woman, and by most accounts, he succeeded at doing that, but a lot of people believe his best attribute is his sort of everyman persona. take a look at his debate against sarah palin. >> the notion that, somehow, because i'm a man, i don't know what it's like to raise two kids alone. i don't know what it's like to have a child you're not sure is going to make it. >> chris, that was powerful at the time and congressman ryan being more of a policy wonk, kind of deep in the numbers, what do you think about sort of just their personalities and what that brings to the debate? >> well, on the personality fron
to have an honest, substantive conversation about medicare, about social security, about the role of government, and i think it's going to be, for lack of a better term, chris and chris, i think this is going to be a gentlemen's debate more than a hurricane-type debate. >> okay. >> i hope that's the case, at least. >> well, in 2008, in the vice presidential debate, joe biden took care like he was patronizing or bullying sarah palin, which to be clear is a different dynamic...
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. >> a lot of people are saying the government is cook the books. >> look i got to say if you're cooking the books 7.8% unemployment is a [ bleep ] recipe. like the radish stew of jobless numbers. >> that was jon stewart in comedy central taking on those who questioned last week's drop in unemployment. the narrative of cooking the books. we heard it over and over. well that's going to wrap things up for me. thanks for your time. see you back here tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. eastern. joining me sean spicer, ron fournier, the journal editor in teach and jimmy williams and hogan gibbly. "now" with alex wagner is coming your way next. hi, alex. >> hey, thomas. radish stew. i'm kidding. something more than radish stew with 28 days to go team romney is etch a sketching the etch a sketch as the romney fortifies the wall of obfuscation. we will examine his latest recalibration. the obama camp gives it the bird. will the big bird strategy ruffle feathers in romney land. and degrade debate. who has the upper hand? ryan or sfwhooin this week's main event when "now" starts in a mere 180 seconds. tdd#: 1-
. >> a lot of people are saying the government is cook the books. >> look i got to say if you're cooking the books 7.8% unemployment is a [ bleep ] recipe. like the radish stew of jobless numbers. >> that was jon stewart in comedy central taking on those who questioned last week's drop in unemployment. the narrative of cooking the books. we heard it over and over. well that's going to wrap things up for me. thanks for your time. see you back here tomorrow at 11:00 a.m....
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and the federal government they're saying can the federal government help? and woodrow wilson actually had a cabinet meeting and pulled everybody together. they figured out we can't really do much about shark attacks. when the election came around that fall, wilson did 8 points worse in those beach towns that were affected by the shark attacks than in the rest of new jersey where he did the same. >> interesting, huh? so we've been asking you all day will you base your vote on the dmi or social issues? here are some of your tweets. valerie crabtree says i will vote based on social issues. if you can't get a job because of discrimination, health of the economy is irrelevant to you. joe debt ton tweets, social issues. the democrats ticket fights for are the ultimate answer to helping our economy. middle class tax -- finally, mary richards add "either or? no. it's the whole package. keep talking to me. my handle is @alexwit. >>> now to number two of on our first five web stories, a story befitting of this hallowe'en season. a florida man found a strange eyeball.
and the federal government they're saying can the federal government help? and woodrow wilson actually had a cabinet meeting and pulled everybody together. they figured out we can't really do much about shark attacks. when the election came around that fall, wilson did 8 points worse in those beach towns that were affected by the shark attacks than in the rest of new jersey where he did the same. >> interesting, huh? so we've been asking you all day will you base your vote on the dmi or...
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government. but while the office is constitutionally weak, american presidents have often had enormous power. this comes through each of the offices of the individual presidents to persuade, to wield influence, and at times that power has seemed almost boundless. presidential scholar has more on the presidential strength, underlying our notion of what makes a good president. for many citizens, the president is the ideal of america, and many value strength above all else. which is why of course so many were agast about president obama's performance on wednesday night. they were left asking is he weak? and if he is weak, are we, as a nation, weak? so deep breath, let's pause for a moment and think about what aspects of strength we value. it takes strength to deal honestly with your opponents, even when they deal dishonestly with you. it takes strength to take the tough calls, even when you are not sure how they will turn out. it takes strength to have the patience to watch policy become progress. a
government. but while the office is constitutionally weak, american presidents have often had enormous power. this comes through each of the offices of the individual presidents to persuade, to wield influence, and at times that power has seemed almost boundless. presidential scholar has more on the presidential strength, underlying our notion of what makes a good president. for many citizens, the president is the ideal of america, and many value strength above all else. which is why of course...
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. >>> this morning the government will issue a warning that thousands of air bags replaced could be dangerous counterfeits. you'll be able to learn if your model is at risk. just go to safercar.gov. >>> new images of a 10-year-old little girl missing since friday. jessica origin jessica originalway was last seen walk home from classmates. >>> more than 350 million people suffer from depression worldwide. >>> jerry sandusky's rambling denials were ignored by a judge tuesday as the convicted sex abuser was september nt to pris the rest of his life. >>> and ammunition blew up at a russian dump tuesday. >>> and now your first look at this morning's dish of scrambled politics. will.i.am played music before a rally for president obama in ohio. and he reminded the crowd about the controversy over funding for children's public television. >> may sound silly, you may laugh, but this is the theme song to my childhood and i want to play it for y'all. ♪ >> there you go. at another rally yesterday, former president bill clinton discussed being president obama's secretary of explaining stuff. >> at my ag
. >>> this morning the government will issue a warning that thousands of air bags replaced could be dangerous counterfeits. you'll be able to learn if your model is at risk. just go to safercar.gov. >>> new images of a 10-year-old little girl missing since friday. jessica origin jessica originalway was last seen walk home from classmates. >>> more than 350 million people suffer from depression worldwide. >>> jerry sandusky's rambling denials were ignored by a...
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how much the government chips in? >> it fluctuates year to year. 10% to 15%. in 2011, 12% funneled stlu came from the government subsidy. >> definite lay sizable clunk there. pbs has released a statement accusing governor romney of making pbs a political target and not understanding the value the american people place in public broadcasting. how do americans generally view public broadcasting and its funding? >> people are generally very favorable of it. pbs did a study last year where 69% of people were in favor of keeping the public broadcasting's funding, and that was across party lines, even conservatives favored keeping it to the tune of i think 53%. >> hmm. >> so it's something people like, and the thing is, it's such a small part of the federal budget. it's less than 0.1%. see if i made $40,000 a year that would be about 56 cents out of my annual budget, would go to public broadcasting. >> that's putting it in perspective. also pointing out, federal funding for public broadcasting has been cut 13% just in the past two years. have we felt an impact from
how much the government chips in? >> it fluctuates year to year. 10% to 15%. in 2011, 12% funneled stlu came from the government subsidy. >> definite lay sizable clunk there. pbs has released a statement accusing governor romney of making pbs a political target and not understanding the value the american people place in public broadcasting. how do americans generally view public broadcasting and its funding? >> people are generally very favorable of it. pbs did a study last...
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americans, we get the government we deserve. it's been six days since mitt romney stood on that stage with president obama and lied for 90 minutes. and currently, polling shows more americans believe him. here's the famous sound byte for you again. >> there's an old saying in tennessee that says fool me once, shame on you. we can't get fooled again. >> that sound byte has a different meaning to me now. i hope it does to you as well. this is mitt romney's america. the rich get richer at the expense of the middle class and the poor in this country. older americans are on their own when it comes to health care. poor americans are at the mercy of the right-wing governors who want to go after the health care funds.
americans, we get the government we deserve. it's been six days since mitt romney stood on that stage with president obama and lied for 90 minutes. and currently, polling shows more americans believe him. here's the famous sound byte for you again. >> there's an old saying in tennessee that says fool me once, shame on you. we can't get fooled again. >> that sound byte has a different meaning to me now. i hope it does to you as well. this is mitt romney's america. the rich get richer...
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biden systematically took apart ryan's arguments for less government, let's accountability, let's community. it got so bad, paul ryan was driven to drink. literally. he went back to that cup of water over and over again. by our last count, at least 21 time. what's the matter there, mr. ryan? got a little cotton mouth? last night the romney/ryan effort was exposed as a shield for the extreme far right and vice president biden drove that point home again and again today, campaigning right in ryan's home state of wisconsin. >> it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these are are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. of it's time romney and ryan say we're going to level the playing field. we're going to give you a fair shot again. >> paul ryan has been saying he wanted a big debate. well, last night he got one and today their whole dishonest campaign is sorry he did. joining me now, dana mi
biden systematically took apart ryan's arguments for less government, let's accountability, let's community. it got so bad, paul ryan was driven to drink. literally. he went back to that cup of water over and over again. by our last count, at least 21 time. what's the matter there, mr. ryan? got a little cotton mouth? last night the romney/ryan effort was exposed as a shield for the extreme far right and vice president biden drove that point home again and again today, campaigning right in...
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the mandate requiring free contraception coverage. >> our church should not have to sue our federal government to maintain their religious liberties. >> no religious institution, catholic or otherwise, including catholic social services, georgetown hospital, mercy hospital, any hospital, none has to refer contraception, none has to pay for contraception, none has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide. >> it was interesting. you have two roman catholics the first time sitting there. also at a time when this whole war on women question is sort of boiling up. that sort of plays into it. truth and not so truth. >> in a way they are both right. there were suits. there was, as you remember, six months or so ago a number of catholic hospitals in particular that were very upset at a rule the administration put forward that would have pushed them to offer contraceptive coverage to the people part of their health care plan. not people coming into their hospital but employees. after negotiations they came to a compromise. it got resolved mostly to everybody's satisfact
the mandate requiring free contraception coverage. >> our church should not have to sue our federal government to maintain their religious liberties. >> no religious institution, catholic or otherwise, including catholic social services, georgetown hospital, mercy hospital, any hospital, none has to refer contraception, none has to pay for contraception, none has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide. >> it was interesting. you have two...
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and they want smaller government and they want -- a government that is really going to help -- not help them necessarily but really be there to guide them along. so they will have -- hand out as they were telling me. these women are anomalies. 80% of african-american women voted for president obama in 2008. i don't think that's going to change very much. 1%, less than 1%, of african-americans, favor romney. so these women are anomalies but with everybody they have the right to have their own opinion. and who they are going to vote for. >> so people have an informed opinion as well. >> absolutely good get people involved in the process. we are seeing a big push in ohio for mitt romney as well as president obama. we know that no republican has ever taken the white house without taking ohio. "the new york times" article that they have out also talks about african-american voting battleground states like north carolina. which president obama won by just 14,000 votes in '08. certainly could be a key in this re-election. article also notes the presidential election got 100% of african-america
and they want smaller government and they want -- a government that is really going to help -- not help them necessarily but really be there to guide them along. so they will have -- hand out as they were telling me. these women are anomalies. 80% of african-american women voted for president obama in 2008. i don't think that's going to change very much. 1%, less than 1%, of african-americans, favor romney. so these women are anomalies but with everybody they have the right to have their own...
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this massive increase in government spending. where does the minus come from if they want to increase spending by that much? this was the scene today in a place called van meter, iowa. this is what greeted mitt romney today as he campaigned. fight big banks, not big bird. 99% of cookies are e eaten by 1% of monsters. make wall street pay, not sesame striet. members of an iowa citizens group dressed in sesame street costumes. they were there to laugh at his suggestion that his plan to cut the deficit is to cut off funding for pbs. this has become a full-fledged thing in the campaign now. the obama campaign today releasing this 30-second ad specifically on the issue of big bird. it's a sarcastic ad hitting mitt romney for being tough enough to take on this yellow-feathered fellow. and president obama has now fully incorporated the big bird line into his stump speech. >> for all you moms and kids out there, you should have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. elmo has been seen in a white suburban. he's dri
this massive increase in government spending. where does the minus come from if they want to increase spending by that much? this was the scene today in a place called van meter, iowa. this is what greeted mitt romney today as he campaigned. fight big banks, not big bird. 99% of cookies are e eaten by 1% of monsters. make wall street pay, not sesame striet. members of an iowa citizens group dressed in sesame street costumes. they were there to laugh at his suggestion that his plan to cut the...
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his framing was this isn't about big government and it's not about small government. it's about smart government. and he could have picked up that same frame and pulled it into this debate for his articulation of his vision for both government, which is make it smart. because romney got points on that. he said i would cut the stupid government programs. >> right, right. >> he's like, me, too. i will invest in the smart government programs, the ones as ari mentioned that will put people back to work. >> along with that, what i thought was so missing from their whole exchange was he had many opportunities to bring in some of romney's fews that are quite extreme. whether you talk about immigration or women's health, gay and lesbian rights. he let those go by. he gave romney in a sense another opportunity to reframe himself yet again. it's difficult to keep up with it. he's presenting new ideas and going back to old ones. >> it's true i kept thinking to myself, the biggest danger was that people may have walked away thinking mitt romney's not that scary. i'm thinking only
his framing was this isn't about big government and it's not about small government. it's about smart government. and he could have picked up that same frame and pulled it into this debate for his articulation of his vision for both government, which is make it smart. because romney got points on that. he said i would cut the stupid government programs. >> right, right. >> he's like, me, too. i will invest in the smart government programs, the ones as ari mentioned that will put...
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we know hoe president obama governs. is there something massachusetts could tell us how he would likely govern as president that is meaningful for undecided making choices? >> i think in 2002 massachusetts voters fell in like if not in love with mitt romney and that was in watching him lead the olympics out in salt lake city, and he was brought back people saw in him the ceo alkt that he could still talk about today and employ it at the state government level. and for the first year and a half or so, i think the people were satisfied with what they saw. but then there was this social conversion and the policy shifts that came with it and as he started to run for president and now he's going to lose that state dramatically to president obama next month. so i think that we saw a glimpse of it again when this was a tunnel ceiling collapse toward the end of his tenure as governor where he was a good strong leader, he create ad a stem-to-stern review and laid it out for the city of boston and the state of massachusetts, but t
we know hoe president obama governs. is there something massachusetts could tell us how he would likely govern as president that is meaningful for undecided making choices? >> i think in 2002 massachusetts voters fell in like if not in love with mitt romney and that was in watching him lead the olympics out in salt lake city, and he was brought back people saw in him the ceo alkt that he could still talk about today and employ it at the state government level. and for the first year and a...
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mitt romney wants the government to rule against it it. he wants to regulate people's lives. president obama wants the states to decide on same-sex marriage. romney wants the federal law kept in place to keep the decision out of state hands. keep same-sex marriage banned entirely and for all time. president obama stepped up and rescued the auto industry, mitt romney said to lett
mitt romney wants the government to rule against it it. he wants to regulate people's lives. president obama wants the states to decide on same-sex marriage. romney wants the federal law kept in place to keep the decision out of state hands. keep same-sex marriage banned entirely and for all time. president obama stepped up and rescued the auto industry, mitt romney said to lett
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see, the real internet is very dissatisfying to the government of iran. there is all sorts of stuff on the internet the iranian mullahs do not like so they've been busy closing off bits of internet to the iranian public. you can't use google. now you can't use youtube. you can't use specific sites where the government doesn't like what you can read there or what you can see there. they've been doing that forever. kind of playing "whack a mole" with the internet. iran's government is apparently getting tired of managing the increasingly complex patchwork of things they want to block the people in their country from seeing online and so instead they have a genius idea. they are suggesting they may just close off access to the real internet all together and instead build themselves their own internal government approved internet. just for their own country. so it's not really an internet. it is more like an iran-ternet. they will build their own. separate but equal. ridiculous right? but you can understand that sort of controlling dictatorial impulse here th
see, the real internet is very dissatisfying to the government of iran. there is all sorts of stuff on the internet the iranian mullahs do not like so they've been busy closing off bits of internet to the iranian public. you can't use google. now you can't use youtube. you can't use specific sites where the government doesn't like what you can read there or what you can see there. they've been doing that forever. kind of playing "whack a mole" with the internet. iran's government is...
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and less government. he goes on to write, obama care will raise the company's health insurance costs by 2%. as employees, you will receive no additional direct benefit other than you will have to pay for it. lacks also warns that any additional tax increase discussed by the administration would come out f takes the less there will be available to spread around to the working people of this company. now here's the the kicker in all of this. lax enterprises makes automobile parts and business is pretty good. in fact, the letter also notified employees of their sixth bonus in almost three years. what happened about three years ago? wasn't there something going on with the automobile industry like a loan put out? but the company tries to claim their auto-related business did not benefit from the obama administration's auto loan. he writes, we survived because our business model and the money we have in the bank to survive these downturns, it would not have provided lacks with any direct dollars. really? but w
and less government. he goes on to write, obama care will raise the company's health insurance costs by 2%. as employees, you will receive no additional direct benefit other than you will have to pay for it. lacks also warns that any additional tax increase discussed by the administration would come out f takes the less there will be available to spread around to the working people of this company. now here's the the kicker in all of this. lax enterprises makes automobile parts and business is...
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he might govern as a technocrat. that sort of has been his career, like the guy from pepsi that comes in to run gm. he can't tell us what he'll do because he hasn't seen the books yet. but we don't know because he seems absolutely sincere as a moderate and also as a severe conservative. so that's not a dig. it's honest confusion. he's got a good shot at winning. and if he does, i hope he's a good president. and if obama wins, i hope he keeps some of the promises he didn't keep the first time. but i have no idea how it changes for us. but i know there's got to be a difference between the two men, or we're all part of a huge cruel joke. >> stephen, any thought of running for political office yourself? >> no, no. absolutely none. i have said terrible things with a straight face on camera. can you imagine the political ads that could be run against me? can you imagine? >> stephen colbert. the full interview on our website, meetthepress@msnbc.com. >>> mayor, the interesting thing about him, his comic genius, his work ethi
he might govern as a technocrat. that sort of has been his career, like the guy from pepsi that comes in to run gm. he can't tell us what he'll do because he hasn't seen the books yet. but we don't know because he seems absolutely sincere as a moderate and also as a severe conservative. so that's not a dig. it's honest confusion. he's got a good shot at winning. and if he does, i hope he's a good president. and if obama wins, i hope he keeps some of the promises he didn't keep the first time....
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romney told jim lehrer he planned to cut the government subsi subsidy. the corporation for public broadcasting receives $445 million. that's less than 1/100 of the annual federal budget. an estimated 8 million americans watch sesame street every week. let's huddle up around the water cooler to watch jimmy fallon quietly maybe starting to put on the best mitt romney going. here he was last night. ♪ >> it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood, beautiful day for a neighbor, would you be mine. won't you be, won't you be, please won't you be my neighbor. ♪ please won't you be my neighbor. of course there's a good chance you already are my neighbor since i own so many homes. thank you manuel. hello, neighbor. you see this? it's called a wallet. and inside of a wallet, well, that's where money goes. now, do you know what money is? i'm guessing no because you're watching public television. oh, there's somebody at the door. wonder who it could be. it's a good friend, mr. obama. >> hello, mr. romney. >> hello, mr. obama. you remember mr. obama, right? last wee
romney told jim lehrer he planned to cut the government subsi subsidy. the corporation for public broadcasting receives $445 million. that's less than 1/100 of the annual federal budget. an estimated 8 million americans watch sesame street every week. let's huddle up around the water cooler to watch jimmy fallon quietly maybe starting to put on the best mitt romney going. here he was last night. ♪ >> it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood, beautiful day for a neighbor, would you be...
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this is a fundamental discussion about the role of government. mitt romney in that debate the other week used the phrase "trickle-down government," which is a very clever and very condescending formulation of what government is. the government programs that we have, that include social security and medicare and medicaid and education and so forth come from the ground up. they're what people want, they're what people need, they're what people voted for. they're part of the fabric of american life. they're not trickle-down anything. and what the president has to do and what joe biden has to do tomorrow night is to confront that notion. joe biden has to not only defend the president and attack paul ryan for his libertarian ideas, joe biden has to defend social security and medicare and the very idea of the usefulness and the importance of government in sharing responsibility in america, a big, heavy lift for joe biden tomorrow night. >> it's a heavy lift, howard, i agree, but it's also right in his wheelhouse. everyone in this country knows his midd
this is a fundamental discussion about the role of government. mitt romney in that debate the other week used the phrase "trickle-down government," which is a very clever and very condescending formulation of what government is. the government programs that we have, that include social security and medicare and medicaid and education and so forth come from the ground up. they're what people want, they're what people need, they're what people voted for. they're part of the fabric of...
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they can govern. this gentleman can't govern. he can't governor earn. he's doing politics day and night. >> alan simpson being alan simpson. i've covered him for decades, mark you have as well. but it's certainly gives the republicans a little bit of a talking point since alan simpson is someone the president points to as being, you know, the simpson-bowles plan that i appointed. >> if you like me to feign shocked alan simpson said something newsworthy and outrageous, i will. some say he shouldn't be in that mode on the day of the debate. that's the republicans' increase lig full-floated argument why the president should be replaced as the economy's gotten better it's harder for them to make a straight economic argument and simpson is giving voice to what you hear a lot not just the romney campaign, it's about leadership overseas, leadership at home and alan simpson says -- said in his colorful manner. >> pithy way. >> maggie you've been writing for politico on five things to watch tonight. what are you watching for tonight? >> the main thing i'm watchi
they can govern. this gentleman can't govern. he can't governor earn. he's doing politics day and night. >> alan simpson being alan simpson. i've covered him for decades, mark you have as well. but it's certainly gives the republicans a little bit of a talking point since alan simpson is someone the president points to as being, you know, the simpson-bowles plan that i appointed. >> if you like me to feign shocked alan simpson said something newsworthy and outrageous, i will. some...
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which is an actual governing question that she should have asked instead. then also her final question about what is unique about your character as a man. what about you as a man, do you bring to this office? they sped past that one, too. that's one of the examples of why asking a bunch of specific questions will eventually lead to something that just doesn't belong in the debate. but there was much more energy to it, obviously. there's much more energy in this room right now. i think both sides are going to have a real fight in this room tonight about who did better in this debate. one of the things that is not clear to me is how easy this debate was to follow. i think those of us who are well versed in everything that these candidates are saying, it's very clear. when paul ryan starts referring to the cbo, i know what he means. i'm not sure what the swing voter, the low-information voter hears when they hear references to the cbo. and similarly, with some of the points that joe biden made. i understood it completely, but sometimes there's a disjointed qua
which is an actual governing question that she should have asked instead. then also her final question about what is unique about your character as a man. what about you as a man, do you bring to this office? they sped past that one, too. that's one of the examples of why asking a bunch of specific questions will eventually lead to something that just doesn't belong in the debate. but there was much more energy to it, obviously. there's much more energy in this room right now. i think both...
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stimulus, hiring more government workers, raising taxes. those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> reporter: alex, that's base you cannily what we're expecting to hear again tonight this, idea that one report is great but it's not the same thing as a strategy. we expect governor romney to continue to hammer that point this evening. >> i got to say i want to give him props for his comedic timing there. quickly there the conspiracy theories, publicly mr. romney, he's staying above the fray. but what are they saying? are you hearing anything privately about this? >> reporter: the campaign strategy when it comes to the conspiracy theories is to say we're going to deal with the numbers as they exist. they have not gone out of their way to knock it down or stand by the numbers. there seems to be a belief that if elements of the base want to continue to hold onto that conspiracy theory, that may be something that strengthens them to have people fired up. as you can see we're getting a little bit of the preparations going on around us. >>
stimulus, hiring more government workers, raising taxes. those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> reporter: alex, that's base you cannily what we're expecting to hear again tonight this, idea that one report is great but it's not the same thing as a strategy. we expect governor romney to continue to hammer that point this evening. >> i got to say i want to give him props for his comedic timing there. quickly there the conspiracy theories, publicly mr. romney, he's staying...
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. >> my ap government politics teach worry have a fit with this one. but in the article you say in part, quote, for more than a generation, this has been the central truth of american politics. how you cast your vote has almost no relation to what any candidate actually intends to do. do you truly believe that no americans can no longer count on the men and women they vote for to live up to their campaign promise? >> i do. there is a tremendous disconnect from the people at the head of the parties and the people we put into office, and a lot of their base. more so in the democratic party. but also even if you're a republican and you voted for say limited government under george bush, and you voted against nation building, as he kept railing against, the clintons were doing nation building in haiti and all. what did you get? you got an attempt -- >> and the prescription drug benefit as well. >> right. a huge prescription drug benefit. and attempt to make a model laissez-faire estate out of iraq. the craziest exercise in nation building you have ever see
. >> my ap government politics teach worry have a fit with this one. but in the article you say in part, quote, for more than a generation, this has been the central truth of american politics. how you cast your vote has almost no relation to what any candidate actually intends to do. do you truly believe that no americans can no longer count on the men and women they vote for to live up to their campaign promise? >> i do. there is a tremendous disconnect from the people at the head...
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i heard more of the same, stimulus, hiring more government workers, raising taxes. those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> joining me now is illinois democratic congresswoman jan schakowsky. she is also vice chair of the president's re-election campaign. and congressman, before i get to those jobs numbers, "the new yorker" has a cover, i'm sure you've seen, depicting mitt romney debating an empty podium, which, of course is a commentary on president obama's lackluster debate performance. you indicated the president may have been thrown off by romney's claims, which president obama says aren't what he has been running on. nevertheless, how is your team preparing the president right now to perform differently next time? >> well, you know, the "chicago sun-times" has an editorial that started, "obama on the facts, romney on style." you know, there was a different guy that appeared, as barack obama said, on debate night, that came up with a whole new set of policies and contradicted himself completely from what is the reality of the romney campaign. it's kind
i heard more of the same, stimulus, hiring more government workers, raising taxes. those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> joining me now is illinois democratic congresswoman jan schakowsky. she is also vice chair of the president's re-election campaign. and congressman, before i get to those jobs numbers, "the new yorker" has a cover, i'm sure you've seen, depicting mitt romney debating an empty podium, which, of course is a commentary on president obama's lackluster...
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that's the percentage of people in the united states of america that are receiving some form of government welfare assistance. and i'm not talking about medicare and medicaid. >> i'm not sure if that number's correct. what do you make of it? >> i think he was just making stuff up, like he usually seems to make stuff up when he talks. and i think one of the things we need to acknowledge, there have been a lot of great groups like credo and dccc doing great work, making sure we get rid of some of the worst of the worst. >> you know, paul ryan is one of these guys. what do you think about tomorrow night? >> you know what, i got every -- all the faith in show. i've got to tell you. joe's going to keep it real and i think he's going to hold paul ryan's feet to the fire. i wrote about it in "the hill" this week. i don't think paul ryan is going to be able to squirm out of answering the questions with joe sitting right there, with, you know, kind of the tough questions to be asked. >> these are interesting races across the board, and in minnesota, congresswoman michele bachmann, it's always been
that's the percentage of people in the united states of america that are receiving some form of government welfare assistance. and i'm not talking about medicare and medicaid. >> i'm not sure if that number's correct. what do you make of it? >> i think he was just making stuff up, like he usually seems to make stuff up when he talks. and i think one of the things we need to acknowledge, there have been a lot of great groups like credo and dccc doing great work, making sure we get...
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i give you the too many capsule and when the government spoke on it. but the reality is what they said initially and the facts have not lined up. they need to make it less of a story. to make it less politicized, and certainly the romney team rightly is talking about this. it's amazing tht front and center. >> to that same end, if what republicans are saying is true that the obama officials were trickling out the bad news then respect they politicizing the story as well? >> this is a ridiculous story. i like michael steele a great deal. i think he's actually sort of a democrat. >> please. >> but the truth is out -- on social issues. the truth is this is equivalent to spreading the rumor that george bush knew about 9/11 before it happened. it's a ridiculous story. the republicans are going after the president of being unpatriotic. this president needs support on the ber national and national tragedy. and this is a disgrace for the republican party to do this. >> don't you think there is merit into saying had the white house been forthcoming, or do you b
i give you the too many capsule and when the government spoke on it. but the reality is what they said initially and the facts have not lined up. they need to make it less of a story. to make it less politicized, and certainly the romney team rightly is talking about this. it's amazing tht front and center. >> to that same end, if what republicans are saying is true that the obama officials were trickling out the bad news then respect they politicizing the story as well? >> this is...
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he moved from the far left to center left and governed that way. ronald reagan did the same thing from the right. the middle in america governors. it's like a bell curve. most americans are in the middle. you have to appeal to the middle in order to win and then to governor effectively. >> bill, i love it when folks are honest. >> well, yes. he's appealed to the middle and the left and the right and everybody else, mitt romney has. if you want to talk about his position on abortion, he's gotten quite a few of those. >> i'm glad you brought that up. much has been made over that. in fact, the u.s. news and world report put out an excellent piece over the number of different views he's had over his political career. how can we discern what governor romney's actual view on abortion and women's rights, what his actual view is? >> we can't. we can't. they have changed. when he first took office as governor of massachusetts, he said he was pro choice. then he appears to have had a sincere conversion to the pro life side, which he so far has maintained, bu
he moved from the far left to center left and governed that way. ronald reagan did the same thing from the right. the middle in america governors. it's like a bell curve. most americans are in the middle. you have to appeal to the middle in order to win and then to governor effectively. >> bill, i love it when folks are honest. >> well, yes. he's appealed to the middle and the left and the right and everybody else, mitt romney has. if you want to talk about his position on abortion,...
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and to get government better balanced. and it's clear there's going to be a ton of support to do it. mitt romney has his 200-day plan they've been working on, very much includes something like simpson/bowles in the first 100 days to get the economy back on track. and that'll be a big debate. >> i just said don't raise the deficit. >> okay. can i tell you one other thing mike allen sent me, willie? >> what? >> yesterday. as criticism -- >> i don't want to see it. >> sugary sodas intensifies, coke, pepsi, and dr. pepper are rolling out new vending machines that will put calorie counts right at your fingertips. it's a move in the right direction. thank you, mike allen for sending that to me. we need to get that in the show some time today, we also need to talk about the campaign -- >> did somebody put -- >> that's getting fascinating. >> joe, stop blustering. >> thanks, jim. >>> when we come back, the jets try to survive a showdown with the texans on monday night football. he had a chance, one drive to win it all and turn aro
and to get government better balanced. and it's clear there's going to be a ton of support to do it. mitt romney has his 200-day plan they've been working on, very much includes something like simpson/bowles in the first 100 days to get the economy back on track. and that'll be a big debate. >> i just said don't raise the deficit. >> okay. can i tell you one other thing mike allen sent me, willie? >> what? >> yesterday. as criticism -- >> i don't want to see it....
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believing that individuals create jobs and wealth and opportunity and not the federal government. that's never changed with mitt romney. these social issues, mike, you need a scorecard because it's like ping-pong going back and forth. i don't think he cares. >> the first part of description of mitt romney is who he is. how do we grow the economy and get people back to work. the social issues are an appendage. we'll deal with those later. they get in the way of the main objective. his problem on social issues was just brilliantly outlined by sam. it's the problem that a lot of voters, i think, might have with mitt romney. what does he do about the supreme court? what does he do about a bill to veto the funding for planned parenthood. what would he do as president, and that's what some voters will take into the booth with them. >> i think on those issues they're pretty straightforward. i think mitt romney will work to defund planned parenthood. i think mitt romney will appoint conservative justices. i think he will. >> with respect to defunding planned parenthood, what he told "the
believing that individuals create jobs and wealth and opportunity and not the federal government. that's never changed with mitt romney. these social issues, mike, you need a scorecard because it's like ping-pong going back and forth. i don't think he cares. >> the first part of description of mitt romney is who he is. how do we grow the economy and get people back to work. the social issues are an appendage. we'll deal with those later. they get in the way of the main objective. his...
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you let the federal government spend trillions of dollars, and good things will happen. we republicans disagree with it today. we disagreed with it for the past four years. we've disagreed with it for the past 40 years. so just to say we republicans just want the economy to fail, with all due respect to joe, that's irresponsible. >> i think the president believes in the private sector maybe a little bit more than that. the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy going into the election four years ago. and now, of course, he's manipulating the numbers to make it look good, he's pretty good, this obama guy, manipulating the economy. but my feeling is the economy is actually picking up. >> it is. >> we slowed down in the spring, and now it is picking up. housing is up. >> exactly. >> autos up. >> consumer confidence is up. >> consumer confidence is up. union pacific. >> stock market. >> said his traffic on his railroad is up over last year. that's huge. >> you know, i have had a good friend in florida that -- earl durden, late, great earl durden, he ha
you let the federal government spend trillions of dollars, and good things will happen. we republicans disagree with it today. we disagreed with it for the past four years. we've disagreed with it for the past 40 years. so just to say we republicans just want the economy to fail, with all due respect to joe, that's irresponsible. >> i think the president believes in the private sector maybe a little bit more than that. the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy...
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taxed every person in successful small business making over $250,000 at 100%, it would only run the government for 98 days. if everybody who paid income taxes last year including successful small businesses, doubled their income taxes this year, we'd still have a $300 billion deficit. you see, there aren't enough rich people and small businesses to tax to pay for all their spending. and so the next time you hear them say don't worry about it, we'll get a few wealthy people to pay their fair share, watch out, middle class. the tax bill is coming to you. >> so al. >> good exchange. >> what do you think, mika? >> no, al, go ahead. >> you laughed at that line. a lot of people thought that was a strong line. >> okay. it was ridiculous. >> it was ridiculous. >> what was ridiculous about it, mika? >> both sides are being ridiculous on this one because neither one of these people are going to balance the budget. this is the biggest failure in the campaign on both sides. >> amen. >> is that neither side has made any significant attempt to balance the budget. and what ryan and romney are calling is outr
taxed every person in successful small business making over $250,000 at 100%, it would only run the government for 98 days. if everybody who paid income taxes last year including successful small businesses, doubled their income taxes this year, we'd still have a $300 billion deficit. you see, there aren't enough rich people and small businesses to tax to pay for all their spending. and so the next time you hear them say don't worry about it, we'll get a few wealthy people to pay their fair...